Thieves' Town/No Logic - Revision history

RedKitsune8!9761 at 10:00, 2 February 2023

2023-02-02T10:00:29Z

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	In cave state, no dungeon prize will drop. You can leave and re-enter the room later in [[Thieves' Town]] state to collect the prize.		In cave state, no dungeon prize will drop. You can leave and re-enter the room later in [[Thieves' Town]] state to collect the prize.

			== To do ==

			* Stairmaster

	{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}		{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}

RedKitsune8!9761: /* YBA to Eastern Palace */

2023-02-02T09:59:44Z

YBA to Eastern Palace

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	If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside [[Thieves' Town]]. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in [[Eastern Palace]] with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.		If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside [[Thieves' Town]]. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in [[Eastern Palace]] with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.

	[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|~~widths=256px~~\|The path of the YBA from [[Thieves' Town]] to [[Eastern Palace]]]]		[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from [[Thieves' Town]] to [[Eastern Palace]]]]

	=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===		=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===

RedKitsune8!9761: /* YBA to Eastern Palace */

2023-02-02T09:59:16Z

YBA to Eastern Palace

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	If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside [[Thieves' Town]]. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in [[Eastern Palace]] with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.		If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside [[Thieves' Town]]. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in [[Eastern Palace]] with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.

	[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|~~none~~\|The path of the YBA from [[Thieves' Town]] to [[Eastern Palace]]]]		[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|widths=256px\|The path of the YBA from [[Thieves' Town]] to [[Eastern Palace]]]]

	=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===		=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===

Matrethewey!9776 at 06:29, 18 April 2022

2022-04-18T06:29:53Z

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	== Getting there ==		== Getting there ==

	Thieves' Town has some convenient ways in from the ~~light world~~ that do not require the [[Moon Pearl]].		Thieves' Town has some convenient ways in from the [[Light World]] that do not require the [[Moon Pearl]].

	With a bottle, you can perform a [[subtile YBA]] in the interior door of the ~~secret passage~~ where your ~~uncle~~ was, to reach the TT basement in [[cave state]]. The door you need to perform the YBA in is deep, so you won't be able to see yourself in it.		With a [[bottle]], you can perform a [[subtile YBA]] in the interior door of the [[Secret Passage]] where your [[Uncle]] was, to reach the TT basement in [[cave state]]. The door you need to perform the YBA in is deep, so you won't be able to see yourself in it.

	If you have the Master Sword or better, it will have one stationary pixel at its tip that you can see in the wall when holding it out sideways, and you can make sure that this pixel is at the edge of the 2px black border. With the ~~Fighter~~ Sword, you need to infer your position from the moving sparkles as you hold out your sword -- the topmost pixel that can sparkle should spend a fair amount of time sparkling.		If you have the [[Master Sword]] or better, it will have one stationary pixel at its tip that you can see in the wall when holding it out sideways, and you can make sure that this pixel is at the edge of the 2px black border. With the [[Fighters' Sword]], you need to infer your position from the moving sparkles as you hold out your sword -- the topmost pixel that can sparkle should spend a fair amount of time sparkling.

	<gallery widths=256px heights=224px>		<gallery widths=256px heights=224px>
	yba-to-thieves-town-setup.png\|The stationary pixel at the tip of the Master Sword is on the highest possible pixel.		yba-to-thieves-town-setup.png\|The stationary pixel at the tip of the [[Master Sword]] is on the highest possible pixel.
	yba-to-thieves-town-result.png\|Drink a ~~red~~ or ~~green potion~~ at the moment you enter the door transition to reach this room of Thieves' Town.		yba-to-thieves-town-result.png\|Drink a [[Red Potion\|Red]] or [[Green Potion]] at the moment you enter the door transition to reach this room of [[Thieves' Town]].
	</gallery>		</gallery>

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	The back of the big key door acts as a small key door, so if you came from another dungeon (such as {{nl\|Desert Palace}}), remember that unlocking that door will use up a key.		The back of the big key door acts as a small key door, so if you came from another dungeon (such as {{nl\|Desert Palace}}), remember that unlocking that door will use up a key.

	If you reached TT from the ~~light world~~, it can be useful to walk out the front door to reach the [[Village of Outcasts]] in the [[Fake Dark World]].		If you reached [[Thieves' Town]] from the [[Light World]], it can be useful to walk out the front door to reach the [[Village of Outcasts]] in the [[Fake Dark World]].

	== Where you can go ==		== Where you can go ==

	=== Clip to Desert Palace ===		=== Clip to [[Desert Palace]] ===

	You can clip out of bounds in this corner of the Thieves' Town attic to enter {{nl\|Desert Palace}}. Clip into the wall to reach a down-teleport position (I used a [[Citrus Clip]], but there's probably a bomb setup), and buffer down+left.		You can clip out of bounds in this corner of the [[Thieves' Town]] attic to enter {{nl\|Desert Palace}}. Clip into the wall to reach a down-teleport position (I used a [[Citrus Clip]], but there's probably a bomb setup), and buffer down+left.

	This clip is allowed in [[Major Glitch]]es logic, and it may be the first access to {{nl\|Desert Palace}} in a glitched inverted seed.		This clip is allowed in [[Major Glitch]]es logic, and it may be the first access to {{nl\|Desert Palace}} in a glitched inverted seed.
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	=== YBA to Eastern Palace ===		=== YBA to Eastern Palace ===

	A [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the dark room with a key in Eastern Palace.		A [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the dark room with a key in [[Eastern Palace]].

	After performing the YBA, back out of the door exactly 2 or 3 pixels to fix the camera, then go through the door.		After performing the YBA, back out of the door exactly 2 or 3 pixels to fix the camera, then go through the door.
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	<gallery widths=256px heights=224px>		<gallery widths=256px heights=224px>
	tt-to-ep-1.png\|Go as far left as you can in this door. Using the Link sprite, you should see only one pixel of outline of his hat.		tt-to-ep-1.png\|Go as far left as you can in this door. Using the Link sprite, you should see only one pixel of outline of his hat.
	tt-to-ep-2.png\|Drink a ~~red~~ or ~~green bottle~~ at the moment you go left, to perform a YBA.		tt-to-ep-2.png\|Drink a [[Red Potion\|Red]] or [[Green Potion]] at the moment you go left, to perform a YBA.
	tt-to-ep-3.png\|Carefully move 2 or 3 pixels right. The speckles on the outer wall can help you tell how far you've moved.		tt-to-ep-3.png\|Carefully move 2 or 3 pixels right. The speckles on the outer wall can help you tell how far you've moved.
	tt-to-ep-4.png\|Go left through the door to reach this Eastern Palace room.		tt-to-ep-4.png\|Go left through the door to reach this [[Eastern Palace]] room.
	</gallery>		</gallery>

	If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside Thieves' Town. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in Eastern Palace with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.		If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside [[Thieves' Town]]. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in [[Eastern Palace]] with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.

	[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]		[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from [[Thieves' Town]] to [[Eastern Palace]]]]

	=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===		=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===

	A north [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the left side of Swamp Palace. Unless you already have entered Swamp Palace, the water will not be up but you could YBA to the main hub.		A north [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the left side of [[Swamp Palace]]. Unless you already have entered Swamp Palace, the water will not be up but you could YBA to the main hub.

	If you are entering from uncle (which is another north YBA and will have cave state) the crystal switcher will be in the position to access the big key chest in Swamp (as in the image), but if you have arrive to the basement of Thieves' Town as usual, the crystal switcher is in the wrong position but you can enter the second water level room without using a key (the reverse of the image).		If you are entering from uncle (which is another north YBA and will have cave state) the crystal switcher will be in the position to access the big key chest in Swamp (as in the image), but if you have arrive to the basement of Thieves' Town as usual, the crystal switcher is in the wrong position but you can enter the second water level room without using a key (the reverse of the image).


	[[Image:tt-to-sp-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Swamp Palace]]		[[Image:tt-to-sp-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from [[Thieves' Town]] to [[Swamp Palace]]]]

	== Getting the crystal ==		== Getting the crystal ==
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	You may want to bring Blind to the boss room with the shining light and be able to leave the room afterward to continue your route, especially if you're in [[cave state]]. If you perform the [[LSD Blind]] glitch at the start of the fight, you'll be able to leave the room, including after defeating Blind and collecting the item.		You may want to bring Blind to the boss room with the shining light and be able to leave the room afterward to continue your route, especially if you're in [[cave state]]. If you perform the [[LSD Blind]] glitch at the start of the fight, you'll be able to leave the room, including after defeating Blind and collecting the item.

	In cave state, no dungeon prize will drop. You can leave and re-enter the room later in Thieves' Town state to collect the prize.		In cave state, no dungeon prize will drop. You can leave and re-enter the room later in [[Thieves' Town]] state to collect the prize.

	{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}		{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}

RedKitsune8!9761: /* YBA to Swamp Palace */

2022-04-16T12:41:05Z

YBA to Swamp Palace

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	=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===		=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===

	A north [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the left side of Swamp Palace. Unless you already have entered Swamp Palace, the water will not be up but you could YBA to the main hub. If you are entering from uncle (which is another north YBA and will have cave state) the crystal switcher will be in the position to access the big key chest in Swamp, but if you have arrive to the basement of Thieves' Town as usual, the crystal switcher is in the wrong position but you can enter the second water level room without using a key.		A north [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the left side of Swamp Palace. Unless you already have entered Swamp Palace, the water will not be up but you could YBA to the main hub.

			If you are entering from uncle (which is another north YBA and will have cave state) the crystal switcher will be in the position to access the big key chest in Swamp (as in the image), but if you have arrive to the basement of Thieves' Town as usual, the crystal switcher is in the wrong position but you can enter the second water level room without using a key (the reverse of the image).

RedKitsune8!9761: /* Where you can go */

2022-04-16T12:37:56Z

Where you can go

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	[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]		[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]

			=== YBA to Swamp Palace ===

			A north [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the left side of Swamp Palace. Unless you already have entered Swamp Palace, the water will not be up but you could YBA to the main hub. If you are entering from uncle (which is another north YBA and will have cave state) the crystal switcher will be in the position to access the big key chest in Swamp, but if you have arrive to the basement of Thieves' Town as usual, the crystal switcher is in the wrong position but you can enter the second water level room without using a key.


			[[Image:tt-to-sp-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Swamp Palace]]

	== Getting the crystal ==		== Getting the crystal ==

Arborelia!9268: /* Where you can go */ details on the YBA to Eastern

2022-02-05T18:38:09Z

Where you can go: details on the YBA to Eastern

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	== Where you can go ==		== Where you can go ==

			=== Clip to Desert Palace ===

	You can clip out of bounds in this corner of the Thieves' Town attic to enter {{nl\|Desert Palace}}. Clip into the wall to reach a down-teleport position (I used a [[Citrus Clip]], but there's probably a bomb setup), and buffer down+left.		You can clip out of bounds in this corner of the Thieves' Town attic to enter {{nl\|Desert Palace}}. Clip into the wall to reach a down-teleport position (I used a [[Citrus Clip]], but there's probably a bomb setup), and buffer down+left.
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	</gallery>		</gallery>

	A [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the dark room in Eastern Palace.		=== YBA to Eastern Palace ===

			A [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the dark room with a key in Eastern Palace.

			After performing the YBA, back out of the door exactly 2 or 3 pixels to fix the camera, then go through the door.

			<gallery widths=256px heights=224px>
			tt-to-ep-1.png\|Go as far left as you can in this door. Using the Link sprite, you should see only one pixel of outline of his hat.
			tt-to-ep-2.png\|Drink a red or green bottle at the moment you go left, to perform a YBA.
			tt-to-ep-3.png\|Carefully move 2 or 3 pixels right. The speckles on the outer wall can help you tell how far you've moved.
			tt-to-ep-4.png\|Go left through the door to reach this Eastern Palace room.
			</gallery>

	~~After performing the YBA,~~ back out ~~of the door~~ 2-3 pixels ~~to fix the~~ camera, ~~then go through~~ the ~~door~~.		If you back out less than 2 pixels, you will screen-wrap inside Thieves' Town. If you back out more than 3 pixels, you'll be in Eastern Palace with a broken camera, and won't be able to navigate the dungeon.

	[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]		[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]

Arborelia!9268: /* Where you can go */ camera fix for TT->EP

2022-02-05T06:10:00Z

Where you can go: camera fix for TT->EP

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	A [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the dark room in Eastern Palace.		A [[subtile YBA]] can take you to the dark room in Eastern Palace.

			After performing the YBA, back out of the door 2-3 pixels to fix the camera, then go through the door.

	[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]		[[Image:tt-to-ep-yba.png\|frame\|none\|The path of the YBA from Thieves' Town to Eastern Palace]]

Arborelia!9268: /* Getting the crystal */ rewrite the part about defeating blind in cave state

2022-02-05T05:47:48Z

Getting the crystal: rewrite the part about defeating blind in cave state

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	== Getting the crystal ==		== Getting the crystal ==

	You may want to bring Blind to the boss room with the shining light and be able to leave the room afterward, especially if you're in [[cave state]]. If you perform the [[LSD Blind]] glitch at the start of the fight, you'll be able to leave the room, including after defeating Blind and collecting the item~~. Later, you can re-enter in Thieves' Town state to collect the dungeon prize~~.		You may want to bring Blind to the boss room with the shining light and be able to leave the room afterward to continue your route, especially if you're in [[cave state]]. If you perform the [[LSD Blind]] glitch at the start of the fight, you'll be able to leave the room, including after defeating Blind and collecting the item.

	You can ~~also kill Blind in cave state~~ and re-enter later to ~~claim~~ the ~~crystal~~.		In cave state, no dungeon prize will drop. You can leave and re-enter the room later in Thieves' Town state to collect the prize.

	{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}		{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}

Arborelia!9268: /* Getting the crystal */ update: fighting blind is fine here

2022-02-05T05:46:19Z

Getting the crystal: update: fighting blind is fine here

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	== Getting the crystal ==		== Getting the crystal ==

	You may want to bring Blind to the boss room with the shining light and ~~then not fight her~~, especially if you're in [[cave state]]. If you perform the [[LSD Blind]] glitch at the start of the fight, you'll be able to leave the room. Later, you can re-enter in Thieves' Town state ~~and Blind will still be there~~.		You may want to bring Blind to the boss room with the shining light and be able to leave the room afterward, especially if you're in [[cave state]]. If you perform the [[LSD Blind]] glitch at the start of the fight, you'll be able to leave the room, including after defeating Blind and collecting the item. Later, you can re-enter in Thieves' Town state to collect the dungeon prize.

	You can also kill Blind in cave state and re-enter later to claim the crystal.		You can also kill Blind in cave state and re-enter later to claim the crystal.

	{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}		{{ALttP Guides: No Logic}}