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Malmo!5674: /* Dungeons in cave state */

2023-09-07T04:22:32Z

Dungeons in cave state

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	In the [[No Logic]] ruleset, you can straightforwardly bring cave state to:		In the [[No Logic]] ruleset, you can straightforwardly bring cave state to:

	* {{nl\|~~Easter~~ Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]] from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Eastern Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]] from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].

RedKitsune8!9761: /* Dungeons in cave state */

2023-02-02T21:44:18Z

Dungeons in cave state

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	In the [[No Logic]] ruleset, you can straightforwardly bring cave state to:		In the [[No Logic]] ruleset, you can straightforwardly bring cave state to:

	* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]] from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].

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Dungeons in cave state

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	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]] or [[Stairmaster]] form bumper Cave.		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]] or [[Stairmaster]] form bumper Cave.
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via ~~a [~~[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via [https://youtu.be/_5SvhUUKcKo?t=1121 Overworld Conveyor] from Ether Tablet.
	* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.		* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.
	* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Hookshot Cave, or east [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Hookshot Cave, or east [[Hookpush]].

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Dungeons in cave state

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	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]] or [[Stairmaster]] form bumper Cave.
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.

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Dungeons in cave state

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	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.
	* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.		* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.

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	* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.

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Dungeons in cave state

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	* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from ~~uncle~~.		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from ~~uncle~~.		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.

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Dungeons in cave state

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	In the [[No Logic]] ruleset, you can straightforwardly bring cave state to:		In the [[No Logic]] ruleset, you can straightforwardly bring cave state to:

	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]]		* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from ~~the secret passage before Hyrule Castle~~		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from uncle.
	* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Hookshot Cave		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from uncle.
			* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
			* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.
			* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.
			* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Hookshot Cave, or east [[Hookpush]].

	=== Megaroutes ===		=== Megaroutes ===

RedKitsune8!9761: /* Routes wanted */

2023-02-02T10:06:28Z

Routes wanted

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	=== Routes wanted ===		=== Routes wanted ===

	With the routes described above, you can get to any dungeon in cave state except {{nl\|Skull Woods}} and <strike>{{nl\|Turtle Rock}}</strike> (using [[hookpush]]). If you know such a way, please fill it in, or maybe let arborelia#9268 on Discord know about it so she can do so.		With the routes described above, you can get to any dungeon in cave state except <strike>{{nl\|Skull Woods}}</strike> and <strike>{{nl\|Turtle Rock}}</strike> (using [[hookpush]]). If you know such a way, please fill it in, or maybe let arborelia#9268 on Discord know about it so she can do so.

	== [[Small Key]]s ==		== [[Small Key]]s ==

Matrethewey!9776 at 03:49, 2 May 2022

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	When you're in cave state:		When you're in cave state:

	* The Mirror will not warp you anywhere, but can instead be used to delete pushable blocks.		* The [[Mirror]] will not warp you anywhere, but can instead be used to delete pushable blocks.
	* Dungeon ~~prizes~~ (getting a crystal or pendant for beating a boss) don't exist.		* [[Dungeon Prize]]s (getting a [[crystal]] or [[pendant]] for beating a boss) don't exist.
	* If you encounter Lanmolas 2 or Moldorm 2 in their {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}} rooms, they will drop a full ~~heart container~~. Picking up this full heart will prevent the boss from respawning.		* If you encounter [[Lanmolas 2]] or [[Moldorm 2]] in their {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}} rooms, they will drop a full [[Heart Container]]. Picking up this [[Heart Container\|full heart]] will prevent the boss from respawning.
	* You will have a lot of ~~small keys~~ and possibly a ~~big key~~ (see below).		* You will have a lot of [[Small Key]]s and possibly a [[Big Key]] (see below).

	== Dungeons in cave state ==		== Dungeons in cave state ==
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	The defining example of a megaroute uses two bottles:		The defining example of a megaroute uses two bottles:

	* Uncle		* [[Uncle]]
	* YBA to {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}		* [[YBA]] to {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}
	* clip to {{nl\|Desert Palace}}		* clip to {{nl\|Desert Palace}}
	* YBA to {{nl\|Misery Mire}}		* [[YBA]] to {{nl\|Misery Mire}}
	* clip to {{nl\|Tower of Hera}}		* clip to {{nl\|Tower of Hera}}
	* clip to {{nl\|Swamp Palace}}		* clip to {{nl\|Swamp Palace}}
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	* Spectacle Rock		* Spectacle Rock
	* [[Kiki Skip]] to {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}		* [[Kiki Skip]] to {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}
	* YBA to {{nl\|Tower of Hera}}		* [[YBA]] to {{nl\|Tower of Hera}}
	* clip to {{nl\|Swamp Palace}}		* clip to {{nl\|Swamp Palace}}

	An extravagant megaroute if you have three bottles:		An extravagant megaroute if you have three bottles:

	* Uncle		* [[Uncle]]
	* YBA to {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}		* [[YBA]] to {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}
	* YBA to {{nl\|Eastern Palace}}		* [[YBA]] to {{nl\|Eastern Palace}}
	* YBA to {{nl\|Misery Mire}}		* [[YBA]] to {{nl\|Misery Mire}}
	* clip to {{nl\|Tower of Hera}}		* clip to {{nl\|Tower of Hera}}
	* clip to {{nl\|Swamp Palace}}		* clip to {{nl\|Swamp Palace}}
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	With the routes described above, you can get to any dungeon in cave state except {{nl\|Skull Woods}} and <strike>{{nl\|Turtle Rock}}</strike> (using [[hookpush]]). If you know such a way, please fill it in, or maybe let arborelia#9268 on Discord know about it so she can do so.		With the routes described above, you can get to any dungeon in cave state except {{nl\|Skull Woods}} and <strike>{{nl\|Turtle Rock}}</strike> (using [[hookpush]]). If you know such a way, please fill it in, or maybe let arborelia#9268 on Discord know about it so she can do so.

	== Small ~~keys~~ ==		== [[Small Key]]s ==

	In normal gameplay, you will neither pick up or spend ~~keys~~ in cave state, but if you reach a dungeon room via a major glitch, you may interact with ~~keys~~.		In normal gameplay, you will neither pick up or spend [[key]]s in cave state, but if you reach a dungeon room via a [[major glitch]], you may interact with [[key]]s.

	The number of ~~small keys~~ you have when you enter a cave is 255 ({{hex$\|FF}}, the largest number that can be stored in 8 bits). This signals to the game to hide the number of keys in the HUD. The first thing you should aim to do is spend a key to open a door, leaving you with 254 keys (which will show up as [glitchy red line]4 in the HUD).		The number of [[Small Key]]s you have when you enter a cave is 255 ({{hex$\|FF}}, the largest number that can be stored in 8 bits). This signals to the game to hide the number of keys in the HUD. The first thing you should aim to do is spend a [[key]] to open a door, leaving you with 254 keys (which will show up as [glitchy red line]4 in the HUD).

	If you pick up a ~~small key~~ that increases your key counter -- a key drop, a key in a chest in non-keysanity, or a "this dungeon" key in keysanity -- it will increase your temporary number of cave state keys. The worst case is that you have 255 keys and pick up another, which wraps around to 0. This leaves you with no cave state keys (until you re-enter cave state and have 255 again) and also uselessly removes the key you collected from the world.		If you pick up a [[Small Key]] that increases your key counter -- a key drop, a key in a chest in non-keysanity, or a "this dungeon" key in keysanity -- it will increase your temporary number of cave state keys. The worst case is that you have 255 keys and pick up another, which wraps around to 0. This leaves you with no cave state keys (until you re-enter cave state and have 255 again) and also uselessly removes the key you collected from the world.

	After you pick up a key, the game caps your number of keys at 99. So if you have 254 or fewer keys and you gain a key, you will then have 99 keys, which is still more than enough. As long as you have spent a key, you'll be in no danger of overflowing to 0.		After you pick up a key, the game caps your number of keys at 99. So if you have 254 or fewer keys and you gain a key, you will then have 99 keys, which is still more than enough. As long as you have spent a key, you'll be in no danger of overflowing to 0.

	== Big ~~key~~ ==		== [[Big Key]] ==

	There is no "cave big key", but there are four big keys that can be used as the big key in cave state:		There is no "cave big key", but there are four big keys that can be used as the big key in cave state:
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	* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}		* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}

	If you have any of these ~~big keys~~, you can open ~~big key doors~~ and ~~big chests~~ in cave state.		If you have any of these [[Big Key]]s, you can open [[Big Key Door]]s and [[Big Chest]]s in cave state.

	If you pick up the ~~big key~~ of the dungeon you're in while in cave state (including the "big key of this dungeon" in keysanity), it will be useless. The ~~big key~~ it was intended to be will be gone. If you can't accomplish everything you'd need that key for, you may want to hard reset.		If you pick up the [[Big Key]] of the dungeon you're in while in cave state (including the "big key of this dungeon" in keysanity), it will be useless. The [[Big Key]] it was intended to be will be gone. If you can't accomplish everything you'd need that key for, you may want to hard reset.

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	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]] or [[Stairmaster]] form bumper Cave.		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]] or [[Stairmaster]] form bumper Cave.
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via ~~a [~~[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via [https://youtu.be/_5SvhUUKcKo?t=1121 Overworld Conveyor] from Ether Tablet.
	* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.		* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.
	* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Hookshot Cave, or east [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Ganon's Tower}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Hookshot Cave, or east [[Hookpush]].

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	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]] or [[Stairmaster]] form bumper Cave.
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.

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	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.
	* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.		* {{nl\|Turtle Rock}}, via north [[Hookpush]] form the Old Man Cave.

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	* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via east [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.

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	* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].		* {{nl\|Easter Palace}}, via a [[Stairmaster]]from Spectacle Cave or Super Bunny Cave, also with [[Hookpush]].
	* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].		* {{nl\|Palace of Darkness}}, via [[Kiki Skip]].
	* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from ~~uncle~~.		* {{nl\|Skull Woods}}, via [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from ~~uncle~~.		* {{nl\|Thieves' Town}}, via a north [[subtile YBA]] or [[Hookpush]] from [[Uncle]].
	* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.		* {{nl\|Ice Palace}}, via a [[subtile YBA]] from Kakariko Well.
	* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.		* {{nl\|Misery Mire}}, via a [[Overworld Conveyor]] from Ether Tablet.